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				<title>How can HK get kayak permission in reservoirs as Singapore has been successful??</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Everyone thinks you can't do anything in Singapore (chewing gum) but how can the Singapore govt allow kayaking in something like 4 reservoirs to the general public and the HK govt is scared the water will get dirty when HK gets the water from mainland China thru the pipe??? What has to be done to convince HK govt to take a trip to Singapore or consider allowing 1 reservoir to be opened for kayaking??
MM]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 30 May 2007 09:25:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ MMAAE]]></author>
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				<title>Re:How can HK get kayak permission in reservoirs as Singapore has been successful??</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I think their Paranoia is justified, if you just take a walk in the country park... People litter everywhere even within 5 meters or a litter bin there is water bottles and Power bar wrappers!!
If you open the reservoir to Kayakers and kite surfers  :mrgreen: you must also open them up to other recreational water craft. And if you have ever kayaked past a Junk trip there is a trail of litter behind it.

I wish it wasn?t so but it is. It would be so nice to kayak in the high island reservoir
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Jun 2007 06:42:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:How can HK get kayak permission in reservoirs as Singapore has been successful??</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Was hoping possibly that Plover Cove reservoir or High Island Reservoir in HK would be open only on a "test" basis for sports organizers for "one off events". This would pave the way for triathlons, adventure races, kayak races, etc to get special permission to use the reservoirs with the govt observing to see if they will go one step further in considering use for the public. This is what happened in Singapore at McRitchie reservoir with Action Asia getting special permission for kayaking when it was closed year round. Now its open to the public for kayaking 7 days a week with no garbage problems. Believe their are ways to control this.
MM]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jun 2007 22:15:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ MMAAE]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would like to see this happen, and for it to happen it would require responsible event organizers and competitors.
If an event could be organized where you would be disqualified from the race and all future races for littering, (all water bottles / gels, bars Numbered) I would be all for it.
Maybe not even a race, an Eco adventure/experience promoting the environment and wildlife would probably soften the government.
I can recall some very enjoyable kayaking around the fiords in NZ probably more enjoyable then a lot or the white water kayaking I have done
<img src="http://www.firstlighttravel.com/Assets/kayak_marl3.jpg" border="0"><img src="http://www.newzealand.com/travel/library/v49987_4.jpg" border="0">
Its all about gaining the respect of the government before draging 200 competitors on a frantic adrenaline filled organised cahos around and through these "Untouched?" places
If you are able to organise something like this count me in.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jun 2007 23:50:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:How can HK get kayak permission in reservoirs as Singapore has been successful??</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If I may blow the magazine's trumpet, I looked at the issue of opening up HK's reservoirs in the Jan/Feb issue. 

There are differences between the two places in terms of topography that mean the Water Supplies Dept here feel there is no need to open up what they see as potential hazardous bodies of water.

That said, I feel there ought to be the possibility of access at times of the year when rainfall and therefore poss flash flooding is unlikely.

Yap Kheng Guan, dir of the 3P's (People, Private, Public) network of Sing's Public Utilities Board cited leadership as being crucial - the authoritarian voice of Lee Kwan Yew helped change attitudes there. Know anyone senior enough and brave enough to take the plunge here?

Steve White
Ed-in-chief
Action Asia]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 6 Jun 2007 04:41:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ stevew]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The Water Department managing the reservoirs are simply terrified with liabilities. If mountain biking and cycling in the country parks have been made so difficult to expend is largely the water department responsability.

In every other countries large body of water are use for water, including most of active hydroelectric  reservoirs. Water sports are strictly no pollution threat and it isn't occasional littering that can cause harm.

Cycling as been banned from all water department roads after a lawsuit attempted by a barrister who wiped out on gravels on a WD maintnance road. Since they've been invoking safety not to allow any sporting activities on the infrastructures falling under their responsabilities. But they still allow in many cases access to motorized  vehicles such as taxis.
Cycling promotion association did ask the water department copies of safety reports which never came through. Cycling has been stated "unsafe on WD roads" full stop. 
It's only with the Mountain Bike Association huge efforts and the AFCD understanding that a few Water Department roads were finally open to cycling.

Back to water activities. It seams that Sai Kung (Hoi Ha) residents have battled to have access to reservoir waters in order to practice flat water sports such as kayaking. The Water Department would have agreed at the condition that the infrastructure maintenance (that include the road, the shore, even the dam) would be bared by the sport association using the water body as a facility. A condition that simply cancels any possibilities (check facts with Hoi Ha resident association).

It would take a political decision to force the Water Departments to let water sports access the reservoirs. Those people only obey to their superiors and nothing can be changed dealing with them directly.

Water bodies like reservoirs are one of big HK's assets but it will take time for politicians to see a future elsewhere than in shopping malls.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:43:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:How can HK get kayak permission in reservoirs as Singapore has been successful??</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ You can rent kayaks in Hoi Ha "marine park" from the locals ... apparently, you can also shuttle hoards of tourists around with smoke-belching motorboats as well. Oh yeah, and you can fish there too, which makes me wonder what "marine park" is supposed to mean. I certainly don't think kayaking is a slippery slope, but a lack of education may be at play as to what constitutes ecologically-friendly activities. Maybe this is why mountain bikes are banned from most trails - some would see no difference [albeit mistakenly] between a downhill bike and a motorbike. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 6 Nov 2007 03:37:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Would be good if Action Asia could draw a Top 10 list of the best places in Asia for kayaking. That is becoming more and more popular and we are all looking for info, tips and a fair selection of the top places. Thanks in advance guys at AA! LWC]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:21:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lau Wai Chung]]></author>
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				<title>Re:How can HK get kayak permission in reservoirs as Singapore has been successful??</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ By kayaking you mean flat water I guess. A bunch of sea kayaking spots occur immediately. Freshwater spots will take some research as few people seem to talk about it - one to look into, thanks.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:12:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:How can HK get kayak permission in reservoirs as Singapore has been successful??</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ 
Hey guys, I went kayaking in Tibet. Some cool journeys there. Better be accompanied by pros.

Some hints if you are looking for advises and tours:

http://www.infohub.com/travel_packages/paddling_rafting_china_78.html

enjoy the journey, see ya, James.

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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 3 Oct 2008 09:58:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ James Lee]]></author>
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